Talk:The Dark Knight Rises

rThird film ?

has anyone actually officially said anything about a third film in the first place ?

The cast are contracted for three films and scriptwriters have hinted at the third, and Nolan has said he will direct three batman films and thats it. But it hasnt actually gone into production and no official sources have announced it but there are rumours about it.

Doomlurker 22:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Depp wtf?
I heard that Christopher Nolan was not committed to another sequel, and that if he wanted to, he would do it.

Heh, I would sit back and collect the dough from The Dark Knight if I were him. I'm not so sure that they can make a movie anywhere as good as that, anymore. But hey, I'd be up for it.

Someone let me know, as I'm not familiar with the Riddler that much: Is he British, or something? I've seen one of the tentative actors was a guy in Harry Potter, and Johnny Depp was rumored to be him, as well. Those guys are British.


 * The riddler is not british and neither is johnny depp ! 92.12.30.59 22:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * besides, if they can do a convincing american accent (not a problem for Depp) then its not a problem and the director may not want them too.

Doomlurker 22:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Batman 3 Villains.
I personally hope Christopher Nolan goes through with making a sequel for the Dark Knight and that he makes it even better than his previous Batman films. I would like to see The Penguin comes in the sequel to the Dark Knight but with a different dialogue, motives and history. I would also like to see the return of Ra's al Ghul since they never said anything about Nolan's version being immortal. Also it would be interesting to see Talia al Ghul in it if Ra's returns.

--Wolf master 13:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Talia al Guhl ? good lord that would be a piece of **** 92.9.84.86 14:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It would. I would want the Riddler and Two-Face, maybe Hush. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 13:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just recently found out that Catwoman is going to be in it and that Gary Oldman has confirmed that the Riddler will be in the maybe next sequel to the Dark Knight.--Wolf master 14:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * add a source to that and we'll decide on what to put. Also don't change the title to a rumoured title, it remains Batman 3 until a title is confirmed.

Doomlurker 15:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I've looked deeper into the Catwoman and Riddler situation and it ends up that Catwoman is just a rumour but Riddler, Nolan is not giving an answear to according to this article link title--Wolf master 14:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I've just found this website that might have real poster for the sequel (please read the article). link title--Wolf master 14:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It must be fake. Why would they call it Gotham Knights? And no Catwoman or Penguin: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a109540/batman-scribe-rules-out-penguin-catwoman.html?rss -- Lord EggHead   (No, I am your father!) 14:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Who put the Penguin and Catwoman on the cast members list because it's been confirmed that Nolan has no interest in having those characters.--Wolf master 21:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Who keeps on putting Penguin on the villains list? Why is every one putting penguin on the list? How many times do I have to say this Penguin is not going to be in the possible sequel. So stop putting Penguin on the list!--Wolf master 16:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Who is put Joker as one of the rumoured villains? He can't be the next villian now that Heath Ledger is dead.--Wolf master 16:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Two things. I was the one who kept saying to stop putting them on the list. Second, archived footage I guess. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 16:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, didn't you know that they could very easily use archive footage and footage of Joker from Dark Knight to re-create him in CG? They could easily do it. They could AT LEAST give Joker a cameo in the third. Like a shot of the back of his head, in Arkhaim (sp?) or something. --75.185.110.190 21:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Rubbish about posters
Whoever thinks that a sequel is unlikely due to lack of posters doesn't know the film industry. Just think it took 3/4 years for them to make a sequel to Batman Begins (2005), which was The Dark Knight (2008), they're not going to make a sequel straight away these things take time. If it takes another 3 years for a sequel to be released so be it but no poster does NOT mean a sequel is unlikely. --Doomlurker 22:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Batman 3 Villains Part 2
To the recent issue of the new rumored villians section on the third Batman film page that section is for villians that have been rumored to possibly making appearance in the third Batman Film. I was the one who created that section and I was the one who put the first list of rumored villians. Any rumored villians can be put on the list as long as you put a link or some kind of source information on letting us know how you came accross this information the villian does not have to be confirmed to be aloud on that list it is just being talked about and the idea of that villian is just being developed for a possible villian in the third film. Now as to the list of villians I listed on my first list when I created that section on that page was Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart), and The Joker (Heath Ledger) rumored archive footage or a new actor. If anyone wants to send me a message asking me why I put those villians down when I first created the section rumored villians on the third Batman Film page or simple give there opion on the issue of possible villians in the third Batman Film or they simply want to talk about something I'm willing to hear your messages and what you have to say so I hope this helps anyone who was wondering why certain villians were put on the rumored villian section.

From Rod12


 * http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a109540/batman-scribe-rules-out-penguin-catwoman.html?rss Bye-bye Catwoman and Penguin!

Thats good enough proof for me so no Penguin and no Catwoman coming from the word of David S. Goyer I'll add the link if its not already added to the third Batman Film page. Thanks for sending the link User:EggHead I thank you for leting me see the source.

From Rod12

Two-Face can not be in the third film because he dies in the dark knight.--Wolf master 19:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Batman 3 Villains Part 3
Alright, we all have our opinions of who ought to be the villains in the next (hopefully Nolan) Batman film. So lets all get it off our chests. I'll start:
 * If Chris only wants to do 3 films, than I think the third and final should feature Bane, portrayed by Javier Bardem, and Azrael, following the Knightfall story arc. I think the film would be better off as the fifth or sixth in the series, so more villains could be introduced to reprise in Knightfall (why not go ahead and call the movie that.) -BlarJotunn 04:21, 31 August 2008 (PDT)
 * This is not an opinionated article, it is created by facts. I dont even think it should exsist, IMO. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 12:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Egghead is right if you want to talk about things you like to see in the rumored film go to my talk page User:Wolf master --Wolf master 18:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Can someone tell me how to protect the Batman 3 rumored villains section please!--Wolf master 18:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * RIGHT! WHO PUT CATWOMAN'S NAME ON THE CAST LIST AGAIN!--Wolf master 19:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

master]] 10:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * '''WHO PUT TWO-FACE AND BLACK MASK ON THE ROMOURED VILLIANS LIST AGIAN! TWO-FACE CANT BE IN THE NEXT BATMAN FILM BECAUSE DIES IN THE DARK KNIGHT!--[[User:Wolf master|Wolf


 * WILL EVERYONE STOP PUTTING THE PENGUIN ON THE LIST HE IS NOT GOING TO BE IN IT!--Wolf master 19:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Caine could have been right about the villains just not the actors. Hoffman denied being the Penguin but that doesnt rule him out. Doomlurker 19:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Monkey man, The Shadow of the butt, The Batman choked, The Dork knight Returns, The Legend of zorro, simCitycreator, Sam of the Bat, Return of the Batman. Who ever wrote this is either is just a loser or extremly stupid and the same thing goes to who ever put Superman on the romoured villains list.--Wolf master 20:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Who the heck put this down on the romoured titles article:

It was an unregistered user, I blocked them. Doomlurker 20:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Mad Hatter!Mad Hatter!Mad Hatter! Mr.Wood 15:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)Mr.WoodMr.Wood 15:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion
I nominate this article for deletion because people will keep changing it and it hasnt even been confirmed it shouldnt exsist yet until we have a confirmed title or something. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 17:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Rumored Titles and Villains
Now lately we have not been given a 100% true to God titles and to be honest I don't think will get any until Nolan has confirmed he will make a new film. So I am going to delete any titles that don't have any sources or links attached to it for proof that it is real. Now with the Rumored Villains I do not want to see Catwoman's, Penguin's or Joker's name on that section again! It is really getting out of control and if I see those names agian I will delete them.--Wolf master 18:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh one more thing should I delete the Joker's name off the cast list?--Wolf master 18:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Well if your arguement is that none have been 100% sure on this matter then should you not delete the whole article ? as such i will add the rumoured titles to the page again and there have been rumours of heath's archive footage so i suggest it stays. 92.13.87.163 19:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Just delete this article! -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 20:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

FANON
All just fanboy wishes, any title or proposed villains should be deleted. 71.217.5.241 21:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

=To Delete or not to delete decision time (Doomlurker 20:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC))= -Votes for deletion here:
 * -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 21:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC) Getting f*cking sick of it
 * If all the nonsense could be denied, with just the basic info that a movie's coming this would be alright, but right now I'm very surprised all the fanboy wishes are allowed to stay. It's dishonest information. 71.217.5.241 22:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

-Votes against deletion here:
 * 92.11.48.163 21:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Rod12
 * User:Wolf master--Wolf master 19:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

votes

 * uh does my vote count ? 92.8.239.104 20:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Doomlurker 21:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * all votes count just add it under for or against

rumoured title
will everyone please stop deleting the rumoured title : The Night The Batman Broke ? 92.12.226.59 19:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

WARNING
What is the point of the WARNING against editing rumoured areas i mean the whole article is a rumour ! 92.12.245.233 21:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

=CONFIRMATION?= According to this article Nolan is set to start working on the third film next year. --Doomlurker 21:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * no it does not it says he is expected to work on it.92.9.73.120 21:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * But still we have some sort of proof so the page stays as it is. --Wolf master 17:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What proof ? 92.10.22.139 18:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Dont know, but there goes the deletion campaign. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 19:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Then it's settled the page stays.--Wolf master 10:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Here is more proof that Nolan will make another Batman film --Wolf master 16:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Sourced rumored titles, please
Alright this is getting out of hand. Titles such as "The Long Halloween"? I dont think so, considering they based The Dark Knight off of a comic book called The Long Halloween, they wouldnt be that unoriginal. Also, the "Night the Batman Broke"? What does that even mean? He broke? lol -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 13:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * My god what is your beef with the Broke ? 92.11.232.249 14:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's just stupid. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 17:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually the Night the Batman Broke would reference a Bane storyline where Bane broke Batman's back. --Doomlurker 09:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * True, but that would be called Knightfall, and it's supposed to be the real world, and I dont think a 500-pound monster with almost god-like muscles would appear. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 12:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * thank god someone got the reference but as you said egghead with the long halloween : they would not be that original. 92.11.243.28 13:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Egghead I've been saying the same thing don't put anything on titles and villians there unless you have proof via links.--Wolf master 17:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Maggie Gyllenhaal
I heard that she signed on for another movie. Will they write Rachel Dawes death as faked or what? 207.69.137.21 04:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

It was also said that Eckhart was signed for two movies then they killed his character off. Doomlurker 16:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It is more than likely that Eckhart and Gyllenhaal are not gonna be in the next film unless it just flahbacks or something.--Wolf master 19:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah it'll be flashbacks or he'll "talk" to Rachael, like pretending she's there, mentally. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 01:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Or Harley Quinn. 207.69.139.133 22:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * HARLEY QUINN! WHY WHOULD HE BE MENTALY TALKING TO HARLEY QUIN?! WOULD HE BE SAYING TO HER." Hey Harley baby hows the Joker?" --Wolf master 19:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

No joker messes her up mentally and she becomes Harley Quinn not only adding conflict to bruce seeing his childhood friend become an enemy but Harvey being driven further to madness by her leaving him for joker! 207.69.140.22 05:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That is an idea Rachael is alive but was mentaly abused by the Joker and Two-face is really angry but you got two problems. Heath Ledger is dead! and Two-Face is dead.--Wolf master 19:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Already taken into consideration. However I feel that Mr. Nolan will change his mind about two face with the success of Dark Knight.


 * Two-Face will never fit in the sequel. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 01:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

=Villains Confirmed?=

Well apparently Michael Caine has confirmed Depp as the Riddler and Hoffman as ... The Penguin! Do we take this as confirmation or with a pinch of salt?

Those wanting a source here you go. --Doomlurker 20:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * WOOT, riddler! and I hope Penguin looks like a normal person and not Danny DeVito styled, or it'll destroy Nolans real world atmosphere. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 00:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * NO not the penguin......alas thy has not tasted the sweet sweet soil.....92.10.115.232 01:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No not penguin at least not played by Philip Seymour Hoffman. Hoffman has said himself he hasnt even been approached. This was posted today. So we can probably say that Caine was mistaken. --Doomlurker 17:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it is safe to say that the rumored third film is no longer a romoured third film Hurray! Now we just need to find the name of the title.....--Wolf master 19:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Auughh... -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 20:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

=False Information=

Ok, first of all, where did you get the possible names section? because "The Night the Batman Broke" does not sound like a real title. Second, where did you get that poster? it looks extremely fake, the question mark is obviously photoshopped in, and why would there be a poster out already when the script hasn't even been started yet, let alone the cast chosen? Sideswipe11791 19:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, to awnser your questions:

first of all The Night The Batman Broke is a reference to Knightfall, secondly it's a rumoured title it does not matter if you think it's fake, thirdly yes the poster is fake i don't know why it is here thirdly the cast list says they are RUMOURED to be in it not in it 92.13.68.244 19:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a hint in the title of the section RUMOURED titles. Poster is fake it is not an official poster it is a fanmade poster. -- Doomlurker 16:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Everyone knows that, for some reason we just didn't take it down. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 20:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC) (EggHead)


 * None of this is even semi-officially rumored. Its all fanboy wishing. Anyway, David Goyer has recently shot down pretty much all these alleged casting "rumors". 71.217.5.241 07:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm semi-official rumours thats a new one, the point is they are rumours, official or unofficial either way they are rumours and besides if it was an official rumour then it would be an oxymoron as if it is official it is no longer a rumour, this has been confirmed as sourced, If you have new information source it on here so everyone can see it. As for removing some text there was a source there backing up what the text said so how is it fanboy wishes? All of the solid information is sourced so you havent got a clue what you are talking about. Doomlurker 08:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

=David Goyer Debunks Pretty Much All Fanboy Wishing= http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/10/07/the-dark-knight-screenwriter-david-goyer-on-batman-3-rumors-its-all-bs/ You can remove the Depp casting now, among many other things. 71.217.5.241 16:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So I hearby decree nomination of deletion of this page! -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 12:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

He says that it hasn't gone into production and casting has not begun not that it isn't happening. - Doomlurker 14:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * so basically ALL THE RUMORS have been denied, and we have absolutely NO INFO on it, and yet you wanna keep it? -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 16:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Well they are the most believable rumours so they can stay but the article can remain as a third film hasnt been denied.

Doomlurker 18:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

We need to delete this
¡OK people we really need to delete this, they're just pure rumors, and that image is fan created, stop with the villain rumors!

Well techniquely as it is in the works we should instead of deleting the article delete everything other than the infobox and the info at the top of the page. However if we did this people would just come along and add things to it. Similarly if i delete it somebody will just come along and make it again. The film is planned so it gets a page. There is no point in the article merely saying:

This is a planned sequel to the Dark Knight.

Because then it should be deleted so it stays and the rumours will EITHER be deleted or put under a rumoured section which will be there for people wanting to hear rumours.

Doomlurker 16:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just delete the thing! -- Lord EggHead  (I'm an Agent of Chaos) 16:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

We voted earlier 2 for deletion 4 against (i am against but didnt put my vote) Doomlurker 22:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Mad Hatter
You know,Harvey Dent mentions the Mad Hatter in The Dark Knight while talking to Bruce Wayne so he might be in Batman 3.Do take this as a confirmation or with a pitch of Sugar? Mr.Wood 15:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)Mr.WoodMr.Wood 15:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * He said mad DOG, and he was describing the Joker. -- Lord EggHead  (No, I am your father!) 15:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually,he said Jervis Tetch.He's wearing Rachael Dawes's nametag. Mr.Wood 18:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)Mr.WoodMr.Wood 18:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but he said Thomas Schiff, not Jervis Tetch. 76.22.3.36 02:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It does not matter if it was Jervis Tech or Thomas Schiff, the mad hatter will never fit in Nolan's batman films.--Wolf master 21:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Remove redirect from The Dark Knight Returns to here
That's ridiculous and you know it. 71.231.130.121 08:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

New Image
Hey guys I'm new here but I have edited on the Avatar Wiki. I have an image that could be legitimate but I wanted to show it to you guys first before I posted it. It looks like this:

AlexTalk 19:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey Alex welcome I'm Rod12 I'm one of the Batman Wiki Staff Members this image of this Batman 3 poster is actually one of the many rumored posters for the possible Batman 3 movie. But I think we could possibly use it in some way on the Batman 3 page just as a new image. If you have any questions just talk to me or my friend Doomlurker who is the head admin of the Batman Wiki. Talk to you later.

From Rod12

Ok sure no problem! AlexTalk 19:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

This is not a legitimate poster. The text is not filled in (notice the gray boxes? they are used for photoshop's alpha notifications). Also, They have yet to commence any filming, or even the start of a script

The image has been removed from the article because it is not legitimate. If we get a legitimate we will put it up. Doomlurker 14:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I never said it was legitimate, that is why I didn't post it on the article. AlexTalk 03:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Good news and Bad news and Corfirmation
Hello everyone it's me, now I have some good news and some bad news, the good news is that they are making a Batman 3 it's under the working title Gotham and it's set to come out 2010 yeah! But there is some bad news........ The Riddler will be in it but he will not be played by Johney Depp or David Tennant but by Eddie Murphy!!! (WTF!!!!!(Excuse my french)) He's a comedy actor! He will not play the Riddler straight it's like asking Ricky Gurvais play Batman!!! And to make things worse they are going to have Robin in it and he will be played by Shia Labeouf!! (WTF!!!(Excuse my french again)) My problem Robin and Shia Labeouf is:

1. Robin will make the new Batman films less dark and less realistic

2. Shia Labeouf is too boyish and he is c***!!!!!

But Catwoman will be in the film and Actress Rachel Weisz up to play her. Honestly I think Nolan has lost the plot what do think?

p.s this information comes from today's Sun newspaper on page 3. --Wolf master 20:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

This has actually all been denied. http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=7923 The head of warner bros has said that they are in talks with Nolan and its really waiting for him to come up with a story. It isnt having a release date pushed because they want to make the film good not rushed.

Doomlurker 22:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The Rumored Information on Robin and The Riddler are all false it was created by a British Tabloid Paper. The only real good news is what Doomlurker reported and thats Christopher Nolan and Warner Brothers are in talks and they are waiting for him to come up with a great story and the movie won't be rushed either by the studio so there is no release date.

Rod12

Oh thank God because if Eddie Murphy was the Riddler and Robin was going to be in it i would never watch that film--Wolf master 19:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Next time give me a ref because this is all pathetic nonsense no offense. -- Lord EggHead  (I'm an Agent of Chaos) 18:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I find it funny that people believe that actors have been cast already even when Chris Nolan hasn't signed on yet.

Doomlurker 20:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Murphy as the Riddler? Im glad its not true! I would like to see one villian that has been used in the old series (like Edward Nigma/The Riddler) and a villian not yet used on the big screen, like Hush, Black Mask, or mabey bring back Victor Zsasz (he had a minor cameo in Batman Begins, mabey they could expand his role) or bring back the Scarecrow? Who knows, im just a Batman fan with a few ideas. I dont care who the villians are, as long as they are played realistic tone and not some Batman & Robin repeat crap!-Batfan '89. Also I edited the Cardnial O'fallon page a while back...

Harley Quinn
I think they should have the Harley Quinn in the third Batman because it would be a great way to bring the Joker back.

Tabloids
alright, I really, personally, dont consider tabloid papers like the National Enquiror or Sun real sources, since we all know tabloids say fake things all the time, so there is truly no point in trusting them as reasonable refs. -- Lord EggHead  (I'm an Agent of Chaos) 15:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

A little more substance
Here's a very recent article confirming nothing else but that Nolan and Goyer are just talking and thinking about the third movie. I do remember another article which stated that Nolan is sitting down to scrape up ideas (which translates into "rolled up balls of paper that now line his floor near the waste bin"). Let me explain what all this means:

--Lygris 22:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Nolan will not sign on until he sees a workable story.
 * 2) The story takes a long time to develop, and then there's the actual development time of the movie itself, which pushes the time frame for the release of this movie to around... 2011, maybe even 2012 if inspiration isn't coming (unless they decide to shift gears and try for a winter 2010-2011 release).
 * 3) If you're going to do speculations, you're far better off looking for the best and brightest Batman comics that they will draw the story from. Batman Begins came from Batman: Year One. The Dark Knight drew heavy inspiration from The Killing Joke and some from The Long Halloween. Since there's a GOOD chance this will be the last Nolan-Batman movie (if it occurs), then Nolan and Goyer will probably milk the best story ideas from the best comics.
 * 4) One last thing, Nolan has a flair for mental trickery. I don't see him above "suggesting" something (ie, Dent not dead, suggestion that the Joker will return) just to get fans returning multiple times to look for "clues".

Oh and P.S. Take some time to think about what kind of new gadgets Batman would get. In this movie, he got a complete overhaul: A new vehicle, a new suit, new projectile, new toys galore. Considering the impact these new equipment options had on this story, I would reasonably speculate that a third movie would see another revamp of all his equipment. Ponder that. --Lygris 22:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)